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Hey guys...im new here...as u can tell by my post count.
Anyways...i just completed highschool spring of 06. I had intended on carrying a path on to get accepted into a med school in america. But, then something caught my eye and somebody started guiding me...showing me an "easier" way to get it done. I am tryin to go to a pakistani med school...somewhere between...frontier college in abbottabad or baqai college in karachi. Or, even if DOW med school is willing to be easy on me haha. However...i realized this is close to impossible. I called ibcc and we spoke for countless hours...finally, they told me to take physics...so i am currently taking physics in college...to have all my sciences. Now, someone all of a sudden told me u also need calculus...and i do not know who to believe. I dont know what to do...some ppl are saying u need islamiyat...some ppl are saying u need calculus. Im soooo confuseddd! I have a 3.6 highschool GPA...omg omg im abt to commit suicide. This is nerve wrecking. Because, i have dropped all my college courses and am only taking physics. I am staking all that i have for this. And, i do not want to wait another year...i just need someone to pleaseeee guide me! Thanks again...sorry for the longggggggg post!#confused
 

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You don't need calculus, and if you're applying as a foreigner, then you also don't need any Islamic studies classes.
omg thanks so much...but, still im soo lost...i dont know how to get anywhere...im so lost...were u a foreigner? I mean...do u know anyone who can guide me. The ibcc people are just SOOO RUDE! you cant do anything. ahhh im abt to go crazy...cause i think ive sacrificed my whole year...trying to get in...and i read all these other threads and everyones been saying how hard it is to get in...or bribing and all. It just makes it even more scarier! Please...continue helping lol. #happyand, how come everyone else keeps telling me i need all those things?!?!
 

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awww cute!
 

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Yeah I applied as a foreigner and I don't know why other people are telling you need those things, but they're wrong. There's a whole thread on IBCC if you still have questions about them, but if you've already spent hours talking to them then I sure you know the process.
IBCC is stupid! I hate them...lol. I just have this feeling they are gonna tell me theres something else im missing. And, if they do i shall kill them...and no its not a threat...ill do it lol. But, which colleges should i think of going into? Like, im not sure who will accept me.
 

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thank you dear...n a word of advice..u seem very stressed regarding ur situation..i sounded like yourself when i joined..jus take each day as it comes and everythin will be ok (inshallah)
 

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thank you dear...n a word of advice..u seem very stressed regarding ur situation..i sounded like yourself when i joined..jus take each day as it comes and everythin will be ok (inshallah)
lol thanks soo much...i totally started this process out with complete sanity....by the end of this whole scenario...ive actually lost my mind. You also applied as a foreigner?
 

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Hi gorjuzkuri, welcome to Med Studentz.

I want you to know that as impossible or difficult or stressful as all the IBCC stuff and pakistani admissions stuff seems to be right now, it is all possible. Planning ahead for your future is great and everything, but don't become super stressed out over it. Believe me, this is all small stuff to the pressure you will be under once you're actually in med school and have to perform under all the competition.

Do not listen to rumors. The entire Pakistani medical school admissions lends itself to the generation of tons of rumors, some based off of some truth, while others are totally ridiculous. You're in the same spot I was just a few years back and I felt the same frustration at having to try and weed out what was real information and what wasn't when I was applying from America---and that's why I started this site, so that you and other applicants don't have to fall prey to the terrible rumors.

So, as MastahRiz said before, if you studied on the American method (meaning you graduated from high school with a diploma) you do not need Islamiyaat, or Calculus. You do need one full year of study of chemistry, physics, and biology. You also need to show that you studied English every year in some form (it can be a Literature class -- it doesn't always have to have the name English).

Now, IBCC may still give you some trouble, but rest assured that it is trouble without any real basis, which means that ultimately, if you have all those requirements, you will get certified to attend a Pakistani medical college.

If you hear any other terribly inaccurate rumors (ie. some colleges have accelerated 4-year programs rather than 5, etc, etc) just ask here. If I can't help you, someone else will. We have a great community of people all wanting to help one another succeed.

Until then, my advice to you is:
Work hard. Ace physics. Enjoy life.

Hope this helped a little. #grin
 

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Hi gorjuzkuri, welcome to Med Studentz.

I want you to know that as impossible or difficult or stressful as all the IBCC stuff and pakistani admissions stuff seems to be right now, it is all possible. Planning ahead for your future is great and everything, but don't become super stressed out over it. Believe me, this is all small stuff to the pressure you will be under once you're actually in med school and have to perform under all the competition.

Do not listen to rumors. The entire Pakistani medical school admissions lends itself to the generation of tons of rumors, some based off of some truth, while others are totally ridiculous. You're in the same spot I was just a few years back and I felt the same frustration at having to try and weed out what was real information and what wasn't when I was applying from America---and that's why I started this site, so that you and other applicants don't have to fall prey to the terrible rumors.

So, as MastahRiz said before, if you studied on the American method (meaning you graduated from high school with a diploma) you do not need Islamiyaat, or Calculus. You do need one full year of study of chemistry, physics, and biology. You also need to show that you studied English every year in some form (it can be a Literature class -- it doesn't always have to have the name English).

Now, IBCC may still give you some trouble, but rest assured that it is trouble without any real basis, which means that ultimately, if you have all those requirements, you will get certified to attend a Pakistani medical college.

If you hear any other terribly inaccurate rumors (ie. some colleges have accelerated 4-year programs rather than 5, etc, etc) just ask here. If I can't help you, someone else will. We have a great community of people all wanting to help one another succeed.

Until then, my advice to you is:
Work hard. Ace physics. Enjoy life.

Hope this helped a little. #grin

omg how sweet! Seriously...my parents have been running around a bunch of hooligans trying to find ways. And, so have i (except i try to simmer myself down by just chilling with friends haha!) But, with all of those reqs...which colleges can i attend? I know agha khan is out of the question. But, besides that? Omg...like seriously i love yall to death...for replying so fast...and taking me out of my misery...ive been panicking ever since last november. Actually, what has happened is...ive always had sort of bad past with colleges. Ive always had good grades and all...but somehow...i always miss out...because i find out info at the last minute...and then they tell me its too late. So, i seem to have a phobia with admission "things" lol...Infact, over here ive taken three years of medical terminology classes...and have four semesters in hospitals...taking rounds and what not. So, i would think that would help...but apparently it doesnt even recognize that...had i know that wouldnt even matter. I would have taken up physics instead of that.
 

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If you want to go to a govt school (like Dow) you won't have a choice where you are placed. The govt admissions system simply places you at one of the colleges according to how you rank against other candidates so you don't have much say in where you get in.

For the private school system, you apply specifically and individually to each college. Some choices are Baqai, Shifa, Lahore Medical, Fatima Memorial (Lahore) , and Frontier Medical (Abbottabad). Read around the forum about the different schools and take into account which city you'd feel more comfortable living in, the tuition, facilities, and # of years in operation.

Good luck!
 

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If you want to go to a govt school (like Dow) you won't have a choice where you are placed. The govt admissions system simply places you at one of the colleges according to how you rank against other candidates so you don't have much say in where you get in.

For the private school system, you apply specifically and individually to each college. Some choices are Baqai, Shifa, Lahore Medical, Fatima Memorial (Lahore) , and Frontier Medical (Abbottabad). Read around the forum about the different schools and take into account which city you'd feel more comfortable living in, the tuition, facilities, and # of years in operation.

Good luck!
yea...ive been looking around...but everyone has like complete opposite opinions on everything. I was aiming for frontier regardless of the bad facilities and it being known as a "dead-place"...but, what i meant to ask was...are there any more reqs for private colleges? You know...like any other courses or anything else?

ps...what would be your opinion abt shifa, baqai, and frontier...those are the the main three im thinking to look into now! :)
 

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I'm a bit biased, since I go to Shifa myself. #wink

I like Shifa, and I've seen Baqai and Frontier both....and I'd still choose Shifa.

You should take some time to come to Pakistan before you apply and check out schools.

In terms of entrance requirements, private schools do have more qualifications that you must meet to get admitted. Shifa is much more competitive for admissions than Frontier and maybe even Baqai (although I'm honestly not sure about how competitive Baqai is). I do know that Shifa has much much better facilities than either of the other two you're considering.

You can read in the Shifa College thread for what you need to do in order to be eligible to apply (re: SAT Subject tests/Entrance Test).
 

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I'm a bit biased, since I go to Shifa myself. #wink

I like Shifa, and I've seen Baqai and Frontier both....and I'd still choose Shifa.

You should take some time to come to Pakistan before you apply and check out schools.

In terms of entrance requirements, private schools do have more qualifications that you must meet to get admitted. Shifa is much more competitive for admissions than Frontier and maybe even Baqai (although I'm honestly not sure about how competitive Baqai is). I do know that Shifa has much much better facilities than either of the other two you're considering.

You can read in the Shifa College thread for what you need to do in order to be eligible to apply (re: SAT Subject tests/Entrance Test).
haha...i think as far as i remember i dont think i did good on my SATs...and thats throwing me off...Ive heard frontier isnt hard at all (hopefully i dont jinx myself..) But, lemme check this other thread real quick...abt shifa, i guess lol. And, you can i guess educate me abt the life there perhaps? Were you the one that made the thread abt mission impossible? Because, that thread was quite pesstimistic lol.#happy
 

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gorjuzkuri that was actually me who posted the islamiyat thing. It is NOT a requirement at all for foreigners--i repeat NOT a prerequisite or requirement or whatever you want to call it--

my dad emailed me, and said that if I had taken Islamiat it may have sped up the process for IBCC and they wouldn't remove as many points--truthfully who knows it could just be my pops bless his heart making an assumption for what could be done so completely ignore that!!!


Okay the IBCC is a total pain but if you get all of your documents in order initially, go to the website find out what you need etc--it may make the situation easier. Also make copies of everything you send!!!
I've been in your situation and I've freaked out too but I think the best thing you should do is make a cup of tea, sit down relax and start from square 1 ;)
 

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gorjuzkuri that was actually me who posted the islamiyat thing. It is NOT a requirement at all for foreigners--i repeat NOT a prerequisite or requirement or whatever you want to call it--

my dad emailed me, and said that if I had taken Islamiat it may have sped up the process for IBCC and they wouldn't remove as many points--truthfully who knows it could just be my pops bless his heart making an assumption for what could be done so completely ignore that!!!


Okay the IBCC is a total pain but if you get all of your documents in order initially, go to the website find out what you need etc--it may make the situation easier. Also make copies of everything you send!!!
I've been in your situation and I've freaked out too but I think the best thing you should do is make a cup of tea, sit down relax and start from square 1 ;)
lol ohhh...Wait...what is this abt deducting points? O lord! haha...yea, ive tried this whole chai shai relax shelax theory...it helps for a great minute or two...and bam u hit the real world again lol. Thing is...not only does my professional career/future depend on this...i have some personal affairs that i musttt tend to...and the only way i can do that is if i shift to pakistan by myself. And, this is the only way...if i get into med school. So, basically that is why initially i started with a complete panicked outlook towards this. And, like i said...my past with colleges...emmm nooo...hasnt been too good. And, so now...i kinda get intimidated by all these huge ppl lol. Well, i did have all my documents together...but i swear...when we called them...ughr i cant even begin to tell you! I got all my paperwork together...i just dont want them asking me for any classes. I still have time till the end of june to take as many classes as possible. But, if i find out...around the time that admissions start up again...theres gonna be world war III coming along lol.
So, what college did u get into...and hows it treating u? And, i mean u have details haha.
 

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ooh no hun I haven't gotten in anywhere yet I JUST got my papers through with the IBCC. Okay wait I didn't mean to freak you out about the point deduction part so DOON'T freak out--the thread on IBCC explains it all. I'm hoping to get into Shifa and I applied to army med too

I know the IBCC can be wretched but you just have to pace yourself and give it some time. Good luck and if you start to panic, channel it into something constructive!
 

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ooh no hun I haven't gotten in anywhere yet I JUST got my papers through with the IBCC. Okay wait I didn't mean to freak you out about the point deduction part so DOON'T freak out--the thread on IBCC explains it all. I'm hoping to get into Shifa and I applied to army med too

I know the IBCC can be wretched but you just have to pace yourself and give it some time. Good luck and if you start to panic, channel it into something constructive!
wow..you got ur papers together. Thats great...now only if i could get somewhere. Im still stuck with taking physics lol. Im all of a sudden hearing a lot abt shifa...a college ive never heard of. Id like to look into it...but im thinking that the competition must be tough...and im not looking for that...i just need to get in. Thats it haha. Thread on ibcc? Which one...they all seem to boil down to ibcc.
 
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