How I Obtained Clinical & Research Experience in the US
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Hi rehan.
. Ok so Im interested in applying for cardiology. I just got done with my first year. So is it suitable for me to apply for a clinical elective at a good medical college in the US now or should i wait it out? Secondly, Research electives scare me because i do not know anything about doing research, the basic procedures.
Also, how much prior knowledge should i have? because i intend to apply for cardiology or cardio surgery which I already have studied, so should i go for it?
(maybe of topic)What if I observe a doctor in pakistan would that be helpful? Correct me if i am wrong,Because i realize that medical students in the US have more knowledge then us as they are required to do bachelors. The only way medical students in pakistan can gain an advantage over them is to work in a government hospital here. As they allow students to actually gain more clinical practice and experience, there you are more likely to get sued then to learn anything, as students can not touch patients. My friend in 2nd year of medschool actually got to hold a retractor during a surgery.
Thank you
. Ok so Im interested in applying for cardiology. I just got done with my first year. So is it suitable for me to apply for a clinical elective at a good medical college in the US now or should i wait it out? Secondly, Research electives scare me because i do not know anything about doing research, the basic procedures.
Also, how much prior knowledge should i have? because i intend to apply for cardiology or cardio surgery which I already have studied, so should i go for it?
(maybe of topic)What if I observe a doctor in pakistan would that be helpful? Correct me if i am wrong,Because i realize that medical students in the US have more knowledge then us as they are required to do bachelors. The only way medical students in pakistan can gain an advantage over them is to work in a government hospital here. As they allow students to actually gain more clinical practice and experience, there you are more likely to get sued then to learn anything, as students can not touch patients. My friend in 2nd year of medschool actually got to hold a retractor during a surgery.
Thank you
Hey Rehan and Rizwan.
Thank you so much for starting this thread! I finally have an idea on how people get a hold of electives, and even understand the difference and significance of both research and clinical electives.
Yes maybe I sound dumb, but seriously when you're someone who has NO medical background, you are actually kind of lost and rely mostly on other people's experience =s
I am currently a first year at Dow Medical College. We get off for a month in September 2011 and I am considering to do a research elective during that period. You guys have already given us alot of information on this subject, but I still have some queries..
Firstly is the procedure for applying to Aga Khan University's research electives the same as discussed above? I ask because when I was browsing through their site I noticed a few things.
1) You could contact individual doctors of your required field who have ongoing research projects and ask if you can assist them.
or
2) You could mail their research department requesting an elective or any other questions that you may have.
I was simply confused as to what procedure to follow. =/
Also as a first year would it be a good idea to hunt down a research opportunity abroad? Because I do plan on doing clinical electives in the US in the future (Inshallah) but considering the economic climate these days, going in the first year only does not seem such a smart idea.
Your advice would be much appreciated. ^^
Thank you!
Thank you so much for starting this thread! I finally have an idea on how people get a hold of electives, and even understand the difference and significance of both research and clinical electives.
Yes maybe I sound dumb, but seriously when you're someone who has NO medical background, you are actually kind of lost and rely mostly on other people's experience =s
I am currently a first year at Dow Medical College. We get off for a month in September 2011 and I am considering to do a research elective during that period. You guys have already given us alot of information on this subject, but I still have some queries..
Firstly is the procedure for applying to Aga Khan University's research electives the same as discussed above? I ask because when I was browsing through their site I noticed a few things.
1) You could contact individual doctors of your required field who have ongoing research projects and ask if you can assist them.
or
2) You could mail their research department requesting an elective or any other questions that you may have.
I was simply confused as to what procedure to follow. =/
Also as a first year would it be a good idea to hunt down a research opportunity abroad? Because I do plan on doing clinical electives in the US in the future (Inshallah) but considering the economic climate these days, going in the first year only does not seem such a smart idea.
Your advice would be much appreciated. ^^
Thank you!
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Some places require it and some don't.
Please read the forum rules, thanks. -Moderators.
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Nope! No USMLE required for electives.
You may as well try both approaches. Anytime is a good time for electives.
ok people i have read all the 307 posts i am a second year student my queries are
1 what should i include on my cv for research electives
2 i plan to be a medical specialist or neurophysician insha Allah so what sort of professors should i be sending out mails to
1 what should i include on my cv for research electives
2 i plan to be a medical specialist or neurophysician insha Allah so what sort of professors should i be sending out mails to
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Hii there,
I am a 2nd year medical student from india.
I will be going to the US this summer 2011 for the purpose of greencard. I will have to be staying there for around 2 months. I want to do something productive in that time, and I'm planning on doing a research elective somewhere. I'm interested in neuroscience and cancer biology.
Can you please suggest good places, and more importantly, how to go about applying for the RE?
Thank you.
I am a 2nd year medical student from india.
I will be going to the US this summer 2011 for the purpose of greencard. I will have to be staying there for around 2 months. I want to do something productive in that time, and I'm planning on doing a research elective somewhere. I'm interested in neuroscience and cancer biology.
Can you please suggest good places, and more importantly, how to go about applying for the RE?
Thank you.
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Hey Acidian, do you use MSN Messenger or email, PM me please for it please. I want to discuss something with you. Thanks!
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Hi, I wanted to know If all the electives for IMGs were payed electives. thanks!
hey rehan and rizwan, you guys have mentioned how we should choose research electives on the basis of probability of being published but how could someone ever be sure of that also most universities give only about a month's holiday which is the time that we have for electives which is not a significant amount of time, so as you mentioned before doing 6 weeks worth of electives how benficial was that and did you get a publication out of it? thanks. i've gone thorugh the entire thread im pretty sure im not repeating anything sorry if thats the case.
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Any time after starting 3rd year is a good time for clinical electives.
No, electives are not paid.
Six weeks is plenty of time to get published as long as you work hard enough. Find out about short projects which may be available for you.
Ok here is my query without the shorthand if that was what you meant.
I really dont have any sort of clinical experience except for the basic stuff IM/IV injections canulas etc. So can i still get a clinical elective and should i mention to them that i dont have any clinical experience
I really dont have any sort of clinical experience except for the basic stuff IM/IV injections canulas etc. So can i still get a clinical elective and should i mention to them that i dont have any clinical experience
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That's fine. For a clinical elective I suggest that you know how to take/present a history and perform a general physical exam + abdominal exam. Learn additional examination procedures if you have time and make sure to review the basic sciences behind whichever field you will perform your elective in.
If you're going to apply for a cardiology elective then be sure to read anatomy/physio/biochem of the CVS before starting.
If you're going to apply for a cardiology elective then be sure to read anatomy/physio/biochem of the CVS before starting.
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