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Hi guys i was just wondering...if you could apply both ways as a Pakistani and As a foreinger...actually well i was born in pakistan and moved to Canada about 6 yrs ago...so i am currently finishing my high school in Canada...so would i be able to apply both ways..or is it jus 1?#nerd
 

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hahahaaa...thanks well you can eat ur cake...lol..ok thanks for letting know..so i guess applying as a Pakistani would be better and cheaper in the long run
 

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oh ok...but do you have more chances of getting in that way..you just have to write the entry test...it cant be that hard..one of my friends wrote it...she applied as a pakistani...and she got in...and again if you apply as a foreinger you have to compete with other ppl too....everywhere is competion might as well try luck somewhere...hehe
 

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You might want to find out where she applied, because if she applied to a private school, then you can apply as a foreigner and still take an entrance test. Taking an entrance test isn't always just for local Pakistani applicants, and some entrance test are a lot easier than others.

If you compete with foreigners, you'll compete with maybe 200 people max. If you compete with local Pakistani applicants , it's closer to 200 thousand. Not those exact numbers, but that's the gist of it.

Also, there may be some other restrictions. For example, some schools consider the application based on your country of residence, not nationality.
 

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i m not quite sure but as far as i knw she applied in Karachi or hyderabad...i think it was a governt college....wowwww.. are u serious...well i guess i'll have to think about that...i did not know that there were dat many ppl apply as locals...hmm.. i been thinking if soo many ppl apply to become doctors...and each year soo many people graduate do they get job in Pak? after they are done studying...or the move out of pak to go practice in other countries.. caus compared to Pak medical selection procedure...its quite simple from the others..(eg. USA, Canada).
 

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Smeer would be the guy to drop some more information on this thread -- he just went through the process of applying and getting admission through the cheaper foreign technical assistance program.
 

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Hi guys i was just wondering...if you could apply both ways as a Pakistani and As a foreinger...actually well i was born in pakistan and moved to Canada about 6 yrs ago...so i am currently finishing my high school in Canada...so would i be able to apply both ways..or is it jus 1?#nerd
1. You would have to apply using a foreign passport to apply as a foreigner.

2. To apply as a local, you would have to convert your canadian transcripts to Pakistani system through the IBCC which would cut your marks down quite a bit making you uncompetitive as a local Pakistani student unless you were to magically ACE your entry test.

But it is possible to apply both ways technically, but cannot confirm that.
 

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no matter what the circumstances, if u have a foreign passport u can apply as a foreigner.
before applying i went to king edward to ask them the same question and what they said to me was that technically i could apply both as a foreigner and a local if somehow i had a pakistani domicile (proof that u were born in pak) but if im caught they would cancel both applications

and oh yeah! no matter which ever way u want to apply in pakistan u have to have ur transcripts converted into FSc premedical from the ibcc......and if ur gona apply as a local with an ibcc certificate that says uve followed the canadian system, the folks at that college might get a bit skeptical.
 

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If your born in Pakistan, you are automatically domiciled and can get that done no problem. Your not breaking any rules. What I would do is go the route you think you have the best option in. Your going to have to get the IBCC thing done no matter what anyway, its simply up to you to choose which direction to apply in. I would do just one though and if it doesnt work wait till the next year and try the other route.
 

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i did not know that there were dat many ppl apply as locals...hmm.. i been thinking if soo many ppl apply to become doctors...and each year soo many people graduate do they get job in Pak? after they are done studying...or the move out of pak to go practice in other countries.. caus compared to Pak medical selection procedure...its quite simple from the others..(eg. USA, Canada).
The selection procedure is really simple. It's just based on your IBCC marks for foriegners and a combination of your entry test marks + FSc. marks if you're a local. As a result though, as MastahRiz mentioned, competition is really high. They can't distinguish between applicants except through marks -- so everyone tries to get the highest marks and focuses on JUST getting higher marks, not on other things like in the U.S. (like extracirricular activities, research, clubs, etc.)

I've heard that it's tough to get a high paying job as a doctor in Pakistan as just an employee, and that you can only make good money if you open your own clinic (and if it's successful). Don't have any research/proof to back it up, just been hearing it from people.
 

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but the thing is that applying as a foreinger you lose lots of money...i mean $10,000 per year thats equal to going to school here then...i heard aboout PTAP program...how do you apply to that what are your chances of getting into to that...if so is it possible to apply for it in private colleges...and Thanks for the great information guys its helping me out a lot!!
 

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but the thing is that applying as a foreinger you lose lots of money...i mean $10,000 per year thats equal to going to school here then...
It's still a lot cheaper than going to med. school in the U.S. or Canada.

i heard aboout PTAP program...how do you apply to that what are your chances of getting into to that...if so is it possible to apply for it in private colleges...and Thanks for the great information guys its helping me out a lot!!
The Pakistan Technical Assistance Program is only for government medical colleges in Pakistan. You apply under PTAP through the Economic Affairs Division. You can visit their website here. Around spring to summer of every year, they post an application on their website for you to download and fill out. All the required documents you need will also be described for you on the application, so just follow the instructions and make sure you do everything it asks of you. You don't want to give the people over at the EAD ANY reason to return your application, because a lot of times they'll bug you by saying "You forgot this document, we won't take your application."

Generally speaking, most people (if they are elligible) who apply to Pakistan government medical colleges under the Self-Finance Scheme also apply under the Technical Assistance Program because you might as well fill out the extra application and attach more photocopies of the same documents to see if you can get in and pay less. Therefore, competition is generally higher under PTAP. What ends up happening is that the "highest scorers" (those with the highest IBCC marks) get offered seats under PTAP. Each medical college, however, has only one seat under PTAP (exception: FJMC). So someone who gets a seat at Nishtar under PTAP might get a seat at KEMC or AIMC under the self-finance scheme, and so he/she must choose between paying less and going to Nishtar or paying more and going to KEMC or AIMC. Whatever might be the case, after the individual makes up his mind, the lists for both the SFS (self-finance scheme) and PTAP are revised so that after the individual chooses, his name only comes up on one list, and on the other list, one more person is offered admission into one of the government schools.

It sounds a bit confusing when you read it, but it might be helpful to look at the lists of those who got selected this year under both PTAP and the SFS to sort it out. The PTAP lists (there are two lists, one original and one revised after people chose to go to certain colleges over others) can be found on the Economic Affairs Division website. The SFS list can be found here .
 

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ooooo....by looking at the lists and thier marks...you got yourself in tough competion! thanks!
 

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yeah and its much more difficult getting seat under PTAP because they only have 15 seats for the whole of pakistan whereas in sfs u get 86 seats.....anyway though its getting difficult year by year but not as difficult as applying as a local!
 

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It doesnt matter if your a foreigner or a local, the IBCC always takes marks off of foreign transcripts
 

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ok i cc what are the highest mark range you can get? And just being curious since Candaian Education is waaay better than PAkistan...why is there 10% deduction...they shhould add 10%..lol..
 
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